The best GPU for 4k gaming? (September 2019) | Ask a PC expert


hey PC world fans Adam here with GPU
expert Brad charkas yeah and we have a weekly podcast called the full nerd that
you can tune into by subscribing here on youtube or wherever you can get your
podcasts but during the show we filled a lot of questions and one of them that we
get a lot is what’s the best GPU if you’re gaming at 4k that’s actually a
great question because 4k monitors and 4k gaming in general has really come
down in price and recent years 4k gaming used to just cost an arm and a leg you’d
have to get the highest heed graphics card to even think to start to be able
to play at 4k resolution and even then you’d have to make visual compromises
that’s no longer the case you can find 4k monitors going first cheapest two or
three hundred bucks sometimes which is great if you’re looking to get a more
affordable graphics card back and kind of power those you might need to dial
some things down to high maybe some of the more strenuous settings down the
medium but you can get it working pretty good you’d want to look at some of the
higher-end options that are also good for or 1440p
so Oh Radeon rx 5700 XT which is $400 from AMD there’s also the $500
GeForce r-tx 2070 super the XT is almost as fast as the RT X 2070 super but the
2070 super has a ray tracing so if that’s a concern to you it’s worth
considering like I said you’re gonna have to sacrifice some of the visual
quality but if you think the ticket settings you know you can get a lot of
games running at 4k 60 with high dose details but if you really want to take
as much advantage of a 4k 60 monitor as possible if you want to have everything
running on Ultra or close to it there’s always gonna be some games you have to
turn down a little bit extra the only real option because AMD doesn’t play up
in this pace the XT is most powerful card would be the NVIDIA GeForce r-tx
2080 Super which costs $700 okay that’s still a pretty penny mm-hmm it’s
only about 12% faster than 2070 Super but that extra 12% makes a big
difference when it comes to being able to you know move a graphic
setting from high to ultra or it get you from 50 frames per second to 60 frames
per second it doesn’t sound like much it’s costing you an extra three hundred
dollars two hundred fifty dollars but it gets you much better for k6d gaming
experience okay well what about some of these newer 4k monitors that are
enabling high refresh rate and HDR and gsync and all that sort of fun stuff
yeah those are pretty cool we start seeing those come now over the past year
so I actually have a distinct HDR monitor at home it’s joke a hundred
forty-four Hertz HDR you know 10-bit color they’re
gorgeous and you can still use something like the
twenty eighty super with that um that being said you would still only get
about 60 frames per second depending on the game so if you really want to take
the most advantage of it and you’ve already invested a thousand plus maybe
two thousand dollars on a really nice high-end monitor like that
the real option that you want to go get is the $1,200
RTX 20 80 TI from Nvidia okay 1200 bucks is a lot to spend on the graphics card
it’ll burn a hole in your wallet it’ll also melt your face it’s by far
the fastest thing I’ve ever come close to testing it’ll get you well over 60
frames per second and the vast majority of games uh even with ultra graphics
settings which is sudden that was unbelievable just a couple of years ago
yeah you won’t max out the monitor in most
games if you’re playing modern games if you have all the visuals cranked even
with the 2080 TI you probably won’t hit 144 Hertz but you’ll get the most that
you can out of it well is an option to maybe stack those cards up and add a
dual GPU set up to in order to achieve those high frame rates it is an option
but you do not want to do it so uh that used to be my go-to advise in recent
years though the industry has really moved away from multi GPU support you
need the driver to work to be able to get that running even if you have a
driver that says hey you know we support sli we support crossfire and everyone be
crossfire at this level the game needs to support it and more and more games
just aren’t even bothering these days that’s a bummer even AMD and NVIDIA are
dialing it back Nvidia will only support cross SL
so multi-gpu setups in two card configurations they used to go up to
four and AMD officially killed crossfire so the new Radeon 5700 XT I mention the
beginning you can’t crossfire that whatsoever so you got to kind of get the
best single card Liam can for your money at this point yep that’s the go-to
advice that’s the golden advice for the last five or six years or so and it’s
it’s gonna continue to remain that way well is it an option to maybe maybe find
a really good deal on last generations high-end card the 1080 TI that card
would be pretty good for 4k 60 gaming it would be akin to like the 2070 super a
little bit faster than the 2070 super okay so you would be able to play at 4k
60 with some graphics you know you got that one back um the thing is I’m not
against use PC parts it depends on the type of part that it is though if you’re
buying something like I used a processor there’s not much risk cuz it’s just a
piece of metal that sits there um graphics cards have a lot of moving
parts and they are super easy to overclock the snot out of so I think
there’s a lot of inherent risk in buying used in graphics card ins a lot of
people swear by it before I dropped several hundred dollars on some I want
to be there is little risk as possible and I think it’s just real risky to buy
use graphics card especially something like that if you can find one for 250
$300 something like cheap like that good – yeah share with me but even still I
I would rather buy something like the $400 Radeon rx 4700 XT and even get a
little bit less gaming performance out of it then I would have spend to spend
$400 on use two gtx 980ti well and and also if you’re gonna spend
this amount of money you know and you’re gaming at 4k you probably want to get
ray tracing the r-tx course right I mean the it plays the best in these higher
card configurations so it depends what you’re talking about because if you’re
looking at 4k 60 and your options you’re starting options could be the Radeon
5700 XT and that’s only 400 bucks it comes real close to the 2070 super
not quite as fast but real close for $100 less the 2070 super obviously gives
you rate raising capabilities and all of these high-end cards give you a
chastened capabilities so there are from Nvidia and that’s and videos pushing
that real money in general if you really believe in rate racing and you think
it’s gonna take off you want to get as much performance and rate racing as
possible the more expensive the card you buy the faster it’ll go in everything
including race race they have more dedicated hardware for racing that makes
sense all right well the last question I got
asked just because I got to ask is it should anyone ever buy the RT X Titan
that’s available no never not no not nobody not never no gamer gamer not a
gamer yeah ok we should if you’re doing data center stuff and you want to spend
$3,000 on something that has more memory but very little extra gaming performance
compared to the 2080 ti then it might make sense for that but gamers should
not never oh hey it looks nice though right pretty well thank you for
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all I’ll link to it in the comments down below and thank you Brad for taking the
time to answer this question yeah negotiate it and thank you for being
there we’ll see you later

38 thoughts on “The best GPU for 4k gaming? (September 2019) | Ask a PC expert

  1. This is a stupid question, 1080 at 144 thats the sweet spot 4K is only good for work and maybe movies useless for game. Game just cant reach 4k its impossible for the next 100 years plus.

  2. 2080 Ti without a doubt, but when it comes to NVLink with most if not all DLSS DX12 games with Two RTX 2070 Supers. Shown plenty of benchmarks showing that the NVLink 2070supers surpassing the 2080 TI. Both facing some
    Cpu bottlenecking with last year’s best and not so much this year.

  3. Had an RTX 2080 since it's release and basically every game I can play at 4K Ultra 60 as long as AA is set to Medium or low, which at 4K is fine anyway. If 60fps is your monitors refresh rate which at 4K most are, then a 2080 is the minimum for Ultra 60.

  4. the ONLY answer is the rtx 2080ti unless you want to start turning settings down which honestly for me defeats the object of cranking it up to 4k in the first place if you're happy to turn settings down just play at 1440P and be done with it.

  5. nope … MSI RTX 2080 TRIO non super is the best buy for 4K 60 FPS … 😉 PC WORLD… …. RTX 2080 Super make no sense… 150/200 dollar more for what ?? XD 2/4 fps more ? no thanks …

  6. Ok so no beating around the bush…..I have had many gpu's as of late from a 1080ti to a 2080ti and a few lower end in between and the ONLY CARD THAT WILL DO 4K MAXED OUT ABOVE 60fps iiiiiiiiiisssssssssss………….that's right the 2080ti …….. everything else is gonna be subpar

  7. GPUs have a lot of moving parts? Aside from the 2 or 3 fans, what else is moving? furthermore, it is unlikely you will get 60 fps with ray tracing enabled on even a 2080 Ti @4k.

  8. It’s 2080ti or titan rtx but even at 3440×1440 my ti struggles with some games maxed, I started off with a 1070ti for 1440p then the 1070ti wasn’t cutting it so I upgraded to a 2080 and it was perfect for 1440p. Then I picked up a 3440×1440 120hz gsync display and the 2080 was lacking in some games. But you can always turn down setting and get more mileage out of a card. My main 2 rigs now are a 8700k delided 5.1ghz and a strix 2080ti and a 3900x and Radeon vii. And a 2700x and 2080, 5820k and 5700xt and 2 or 3 other builds that I don’t use as much as my main 2. I just love to tinker and benchmark stuff. I still feel nothing is gonna live up to the 1080ti it was legendary for its price while the 2080ti is a beast it just cost way too much I payed $1500 for mine which is stupid. Not sure why I got a vii guess I just wanted to build the ultimate amd build. Yes the xt is close to the vii and faster in some games the vii is faster overall and responds to overclocking better. I almost bought a 9900k but thought the 3900x was the better deal even though it’s still slower in gaming. My 3900x rig is hooked up to an lg 32in 144hz va freesync panel and its a great display for $300 because freesync and gsync both work with it. Still debating on putting the 2080ti with the 3900x or leave it with the 8700k but it probably doesn’t matter at 3440×1440 your gonna be gpu bound.

  9. The only option is a 2080 super? 🤣. I disagree with almost everything these dudes say. That guy with the beard is so misinformed it’s not even funny.

    Don’t even think about 4K unless you have a 2080ti.

  10. with My 4k 144hz acer HDR screen, I get between 100 & 130 FPS on my 1080ti PLAYING OLDER GAMES that support 4k. But I keep my LCD set to 120hz because it runs at 10bit color equivalent with the displayport 1.4 restrictions. My FPS is only 120 on average anyway I cant tell the difference between 120hz to 144hz but i can tell different from 98hz to 120hz so yeah thats how i look at it. Im all about the older games running 4k right now & when cards go down in price ill try out metro exdos on my new 3080ti or what ever its called.

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